Starling Tribune - Season 5 Edition – Disbanded (A CW Network Arrow Television Show Fan Podcast) #146

The Official Arrow Podcast of the Gonna Geek Network

Episode: “Disbanded” [Season 5 Episode 18]

Air Date: Wednesday, March 29, 2017

Director: JJ Makaro

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0538387/?ref_=tt_ov_dr

1x Arrow | 3x Flash | Stunt Producer - 23x Arrow, 13x Legends, 13x Supergirl, 4x Flash

Writer: Rebecca Bellotto

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3428799/?ref_=ttfc_fc_wr4

2x Arrow

Promo: http://www.cbr.com/arrow-disbanded-promo/

Weekly Ratings

Arrow

Episode # / Episode Title / Episode Air / Date / Rating

01 Legacy 5-Oct-16 1.89

02 The Recruits 12-Oct-16 1.94

03 A Matter Of Trust 19-Oct-16 1.79

04 Penance 26-Oct-16 1.87

05 Human Target 2-Nov-16 1.61

06 So It Begins 9-Nov-16 1.95

07 Vigilante 16-Nov-16 1.86

08 Invasion 30-Nov-16 3.55

09 What We Leave Behind 7-Dec-16 1.94

10 Who Are You 25-Jan-17 1.68

11 Second Chances 1-Feb-17 1.91

12 Bratva 8-Feb-17 1.61

13 Spectre Of The Gun 15-Feb-17 1.66

14 The Sin-Eater 22-Feb-17 1.54

15 Fighting Fire with Fire 1-Mar-17 1.60

16 Checkmate 15-Mar-17 1.53

17 Kapiushon 22-Mar-17 1.38

18 Disbanded 29-Mar-17 1.55

19 Dangerous Liaisons 26-Apr-17

20 Underneath 3-May-17

21 Honor Thy Fathers 10-May-17

22 Missing 17-May-17

23 TBD 24-May-17

Legends Of Tomorrow

Episode # / Episode Title / Episode Air / Date / Rating

01 Out Of Time 13-Oct-2016 3.01

02 Justice Society of America 20-Oct-2016 2.83

03 Shogun 27-Oct-2016 2.71

04 Abominations 3-Nov-2016 1.75

05 Compromised 10-Nov-2016 1.77

06 Outlaw Country 17-Nov-2016 1.85

07 Invasion 1-Dec-2016 3.39

08 The Chicago Way 8-Dec-2016 2.00

09 Raiders Of The Lost Art 24-Jan-2016 1.74

10 The Legion Of Doom 31-Jan-2017 1.78

11 Turncoat 7-Feb-17 1.89

12 Camelot/3000 21-Feb-17 1.64

13 Land Of The Lost 7-Mar-17 1.54

14 Moonshoot 14-Mar-17 1.34

15 Fellowship of the Spear 21-Mar-17 1.72

16 Doomworld 28-Mar-17 1.59

17 Aruba 4-Apr-17

Supergirl

Episode # / Episode Title / Episode Air / Date / Rating

01 The Adventures of Supergirl 10-Oct-16 3.06

02 The Last Children of Krypton 17-Oct-16 2.66

03 Welcome to Earth 24-Oct-16 2.65

04 Survivors 31-Oct-16 2.22

05 Crossfire 7-Nov-16 2.47

06 Changing 14-Nov-16 2.35

07 The Darkest Place 21-Nov-16 2.61

08 Medusa 28-Nov-16 3.53

09 Supergirl Lives 23-Jan-17 2.65

10 We Can Be Heroes 30-Jan-17 2.35

11 The Martian Chronicles 6-Feb-17 2.4

12 Luthors 13-Feb-17 2.52

13 Mr. & Mrs. Mxyzptlk 20-Feb-17 2.24

14 Homecoming 27-Feb-17 2.17

15 Exodus 6-Mar-17 2.16

16 Star-Crossed 20-Mar-17 2.07

17 Distant Sun 27-Mar-17 2.21

18 Ace Reporter 24-Apr-17

THE FLASH

Episode # / Episode Title / Episode Air / Date / Rating

01 Flashpoint 4-Oct-16 3.17

02 Paradox 11-Oct-16 2.80

03 Magenta 18-Oct-16 2.67

04 The New Rogues 25-Oct-16 2.80

05 Monster 1-Nov-16 2.77

06 Shade 15-Nov-16 3.01

07 Killer Frost 22-Nov-16 2.95

08 Invasion! 29-Nov-16 4.15

09 The Present 6-Dec-16 3.14

10 Borrowing Problems From The Future 24-Jan-17 2.68

11 Dead Or Alive 31-Jan-17 3.06

12 Untouchable 7-Feb-17 2.94

13 Attack on Gorilla City 21-Feb-17 2.78

14 Attack On Central City 28-Feb-17 2.87

15 The Wrath of Savitar 7-Mar-17 2.52

16 Into The Speed Force 14-Mar-17 2.39

17 Duet 21-Mar-17 2.71

18 Abra Kadabra 28-Mar-17

19 The Once And Future Flash 25-Apr-17

Part 1: The Plot, Themes and Characters

• What was the overall theme for this episode / What was the link to the ep. name
  • Oliver believed Prometheus and broke up the team
  • Diggle got through to Oliver, who decided to break his ties with the Bratva
• Fight scenes & Stunts: Share your thoughts
  • 1st Bratva - there to steal medicine; Dinah hand-to-hand; rest have guns
  • Attack on Chase
    • Crash; fire
    • Bratva has a lot of firepower
    • Dinah - Canary cry
    • Shoot out; Chase runs
    • Curtis tackles; uses T-sphere to hack device
  • Flashback
    • Oliver helps Bratva steal medicine to help people with TB
    • Oliver gets stabby with an arrow and breaks guy’s neck
  • 2nd Bratva
    • Hand-to-hand
    • Anatoly took hostages
      • Spartan, Dinah and Wild Dog to hostages
      • Headshots galore
    • Oliver has a gun (Wait, wasn’t there a gun control episode this season?!?)
      • Shoots alarm; both he and Anatoly have to run
• Flashbacks: Share your thoughts
  • Oliver plans to go back to island in 48 hours
  • Anatoly wants to send Oliver out with a bang
  • They steal medicine to help people
• Ollie:
  • Prometheus is right - I’m broken; I’m beyond redemption; I ruin all who comes in contact with me
  • Tells team to stand down; it’s over
  • Killing Chase should be on my soul, not on anyone else
  • Brings in Bratva
  • The foundation of my crusade is based on a lie
  • After he listens to Diggle, gets the team back together to stop Bratva
  • Uses guns, not arrows
  • Feels he has to earn the Green Arrow mantle back
  • Gives team spots in the Arrowcave for their suits
• Diggle
  • The true hero of the episode
  • Won’t give up on Oliver
  • Leads team to stop Bratva and to stop Chase
  • Works to stop Ollie from making a mistake he cannot come back from
  • Dedicated five years to crusade; “I’m your brother”
  • Knows who Ollie really is
  • Not about saving Chase, about saving Ollie’s soul
  • Told by Oliver can get redemption by being Spartan; tells Oliver he can get redemption by being Green Arrow
  • Ask for help; don’t have to be alone
• Thea
  • Call me if things get too bad
• Felicity
  • Brushes off Diggle - hey, let Ollie use Bratva, whatever
  • Runs to Helix; Helix knows she is Overwatch and Curtis is Mr. Terrific
  • Learns Chase uses tech to masks face on camera
  • Helix has her and Curtis break into Kord
  • Uses sedative to put down security guard; also, no mask, no gloves, but great hair
  • Gets footage of Chase being Prometheus
• Quentin Lance
  • Provided excuse for Ollie’s absence - meditative retreat
  • Hates Chase
  • Support
• Curtis / Mr. Terrific
  • Uses T-spheres to hack Chase
  • Breaks into Helix by putting tracking nanites in Felicity’s pancakes
  • Breaks into Kord with Felicity (no mask, no gloves)
• Rene / Wild Dog
  • Banned from Mayor’s office because he threatened to pop Chase
• Dinah Drake / Black Canary
  • Canary cry
  • The new Diggle
  • Gets to take evidence that Chase is Prometheus to SCPD
• Artemis
  • Traitor
• Rory / Ragman
  • Walkabout
• D.A. Adrian Chase / Prometheus
  • Goes to Mayor’s office, gives Ollie knife, tells Ollie to kill him now because Ollie can’t do anything as Green Arrow, so have to kill him in public
  • Almost impressed Ollie tried something
  • Smug when has to be in protective custody
  • Knows when something is up when with marshalls
  • Throws pen into marshall’s eye; strangles other marshall; goes back to first marshall and stabs him repeatedly with pen
  • Drives away covered in blood to “It’s a Beautiful Morning” by The Rascals
  • What we know:
    • Real name - Simon Morrison; did his homework before finding Talia 2 years ago; working with Talia (Ollie killed her dad too)
• Susan Williams
  • Ollie tells her, “I can’t be with you. My apologies.”
• Bratva
  • Ollie calls Anatoly to Star City to kill Chase
  • Need payment - need certain medications; when mixed, makes powerful drug
  • Anatoly told Oliver before Ollie left that he was afraid of who he would turn into without Ollie there
  • Has to sell drugs for revenue
  • In past, wanted to restore Bratva to glory, to original purpose of helping people
  • Now, Anatoly needs to do what he has to in order to survive and keep position
  • Oliver is no longer Bratva; is considered to be enemy of all Bratva
• Who is Vigilante?
  • Not in episode
• Lingering Questions / Issues
  • Where does Ollie live?
  • Bertinelli mention - 4 times
  • Kord mentioned a lot lately

ARROW NEWS:

1. Spoiler Room: Scoop on Supergirl, Grey's Anatomy, Blindspot, and more (Date: 24 March 2017)
   Arrow finale scoop! — As the season heads toward the ultimate showdown between Oliver and Chase, we’re going to be seeing a very different season finale this year. “We’re not going to destroy the city,” EP Marc Guggenheim teases. “We’re not even going to threaten the city. In fact, I can also tell you the finale doesn’t even take place in the city. Finally, the citizens of Star City can breathe easily in May.” Wherever the finale takes place, Guggenheim adds, “You can expect a good number of returning characters, characters you haven’t seen in a while, back in the episode.”
   Link:http://ew.com/tv/2017/03/24/spoiler-room-supergirl-greys-anatomy-blindspot/
2. ARROW: CAPTAIN BOOMERANG ACTOR TEASES RETURN (Date: 25 March 2017)
   The classic DC Comics rogue, better known as Captain Boomerang, was introduced on the third season of “Arrow,” in the two-part crossover with “The Flash,” but hasn’t been shown since. However, actor Nick Tarabay suggests that could change soon. “Who really misses this guy?” the actor wrote in a tweet containing a photo of Boomerang. “Cause as you know….What goes around ALWAYS comes back around.” When Boomerang was last seen, he was incarcerated in the secret A.R.G.U.S. supermax prison on Lian Yu. How or when Boomerang might escape will have to remain mystery as of now.
   Link:http://www.cbr.com/arrow-captain-boomerang-return/
3. Marc Guggenheim says ‘Arrow’s’ Vigilante is someone we already know (Date: 26 March 2017)
   Vigilante has made a bad habit of getting in Oliver’s (Stephen Amell) way — and the Green Arrow’s way for that matter — all year, but no matter how often he shows up, we’re no closer to unmasking him. According to executive producer Marc Guggenheim, that’s a mystery for Season 6. We know who it is, but we were kind of intrigued by the idea of having a mystery that led into the next season,” Guggenheim told us at Paleyfest 2017. “We were excited at the prospect of just letting this play out for a little while longer, and it gives us something cool to do in Season 6. “As a general rule, I’m not a fan of mystery characters who when you take off the mask the audience goes, ‘What a minute, I’ve never seen that person before in my life,'” Guggenheim jokes. “I’m probably not spoiling anything by saying whoever’s underneath the Vigilante mask, you’ve seen that person before.”
   Link:http://screenertv.com/television/arrow-marc-guggenheim-vigilantes-identity-someone-we-know/
4. ARROW: KATIE CASSIDY WILL RETURN AS SERIES REGULAR FOR SEASON 6 (Date: 27 March 2017)
   Laurel Lance is back! Sort of. Though her character died in Season 4, longtime “Arrow” star Katie Cassidy will return, but with a twist: she will play Black Siren, Earth-2’s evil version of Laurel, as a series regular in Season 6. Additionally, Black Siren will feature in the last two episodes of Season 5. “One of the things that most excites us about ‘Arrow’ is that we go where the story takes us. Last year, the story took us to the tragic death of Laurel Lance. This year, our midseason finale reintroduced us to Laurel’s doppelgänger, Black Siren,” explained executive producer Marc Guggenheim in a statement. “We were so taken by Katie’s fearless interpretation of this character that we knew her story was not yet finished. We couldn’t be more thrilled to welcome Katie back to ‘Arrow’ as Black Siren, though as her appearances on ‘Arrow’ and ‘DC’s Legends of Tomorrow’ this season show, she never really left the family.”
   Link:http://www.cbr.com/arrow-katie-cassidy-series-regular-season-6-black-siren/
5. Arrow: What's really going on with Helix? (Date: 28 March 2017)
   “We are going to see somebody [else],” Mericle teases. “What’s interesting about it is he’s not actually at Helix right now, so there’s going to be a big episode where we find out who this person is, and Felicity is involved in helping him. It’s really messed up.” But Felicity’s dealings with Helix will also help her to better understand what Team Arrow — Oliver (Stephen Amell) in particular — have been facing over the last five seasons. “Felicity’s use of Pandora is very similar to Oliver and Diggle’s [David Ramsey] use of violence,” EP Marc Guggenheim says. “It’s the hacker equivalent. You’re using violence for a good means, but violence is not necessarily a good thing. So what’s the cost to Felicity in doing that? We don’t want to turn Felicity into a killer, but we wanted to explore how Felicity has been spending basically five years with Team Arrow now, and she’s been spending five years with people who solve problems by not just resorting to violence, but by resorting to means that are morally questionable. Felicity is going to start discovering what happens when you fight fire with fire — do you get burned?”
   Link:http://ew.com/tv/2017/03/28/arrow-felicity-helix-spoilers/
6. Legends of Tomorrow boss, cast on that shocking Felicity twist (Date: 28 March 2017)
   Marc Guggenheim told EW, “It’s always nice when you can pull in a character from one of the other shows. We talked about a lot of different ideas, and I said, ‘Since this is an alternate reality and we’ll probably never have the opportunity to do so again, I think it would be fun if we did Felicity as a superhero,’ because I’ve said it before, I’ll say it again: I have zero intention of ever putting Felicity in a mask and costume on Arrow. There’s two lines in the sand that I’ve drawn for Arrow for myself,” Guggenheim says. “I can’t speak for Greg [Berlanti] or for Wendy [Mericle], but for as long as I’m involved with the show, the two things I never want to do is kill off Thea [Willa Holland] and put Felicity in a mask and a costume. Those, to me, are two lines that I just think are a bridge too far. Thea, because we’ve taken so many family members away from Oliver, and Felicity because when you put a character like that in a costume, I think it diminishes who that character is and it makes the idea of superheroics seem silly.”
   Link:http://ew.com/tv/2017/03/28/legends-tomorrow-felicity-superhero-death/
7. Matt's Inside Line: Scoop on Once, Lucifer, Scorpion, Arrow, Grimm, Suits, Mr. Robot, Chicago Med and More (Date: 30 March 2017)
   Any hint as to when Arrow’s Thea will return? — Willa Holland will be on hand for the final three of this season’s five remaining episodes. “Thea is the daughter of sociopaths, which is one of the biggest challenges any human being can really face,” notes co-showrunner Wendy Mericle, “so she’s going to grappling with that and trying to understand: What is this in her that makes her so kind of Moira-esque, and how is she going to manage it? Ultimately, she and Oliver are going to come to the same conclusion about how to do that, by the finale.”
   Link:http://tvline.com/2017/03/30/once-upon-a-time-season-6-spoilers-snow-charming-sleeping-curse/

GENERAL DC TV NEWS

1. Lynda Carter Confirms That She Is Playing A Durlan on Supergirl (Date: 28 March 2017)
   The episode of Supergirl, titled "Distant Sun," provided the audience with a much clearer look at the "true form" of President Olivia Marsdin, who had been revealed early this season as a shape-shifting alien. In the privacy of her own office Marsdin was able to transform completely into a quasi-reptilian alien form.
   Link:http://comicbook.com/2017/03/28/lynda-carter-confirms-that-she-is-playing-a-durlan-on-supergirl/
2. Will The Thinker Be The Flash's Season 4 Big Bad? (Date: 28 March 2017)
   When Abra Kadabra was talking to The Flash about his most dangerous foes, he rattled off a number of familiar names, including Zoom and Eobard Thawne...and one less-familiar one (at least to the TV audience): "DeVoe." Longtime comic book readers would recognize that name: Clifford DeVoe is a longtime Flash and Titans villain better known as The Thinker. Created in 1943, The Thinker is one of The Flash's earliest villains. Originally a foe to Jay Garrick, DeVoe battled three generations of Flashes before his death in The Flash #134 in 1998. After his death, though, his brain patterns were used to create an AI that went on to become an antihero.
   Link:http://comicbook.com/2017/03/29/will-the-thinker-be-the-flashs-season-4-big-bad-/
3. LEGENDS OF TOMORROW: EXPECT NEW CHARACTERS IN SEASON 3 (Date: 28 March 2017)
   According to “Legends of Tomorrow” executive producer and showrunner Phil Klemmer, adding new characters is “for sure” again the plan for season three of the DC Comics-based series, which has already been ordered by The CW — although exactly which new faces will join the show may not yet be totally cemented. “We haven’t fully pitched it, but we’ve got great ideas, and hopefully the studio and network agree,” Klemmer told CBR. “But so much of the show is working well this year. You just want to play to your strengths, and keep having fun.”
   Link:http://www.cbr.com/legends-of-tomorrow-expect-new-characters-in-season-3/
4. LEGENDS OF TOMORROW PLAN TO RESTORE REALITY IN SEASON FINALE PROMO (Date: 29 March 2017)
   The finale, “Aruba,” will not air at its regular time, but will debut Tuesday, April 4th at 8:00 EST.
   Link:http://www.cbr.com/legends-of-tomorrow-season-finale-promo/

FEEDBACK

Replies to post about Black Siren

Chris Campbell I like her as black siren a lot more than I ever did as laurel or canary lol
Adam Nelson Chris is going to love it. :p
Haley Malle #NoLaurelNoArrow

NEXT EPISODE

Promo for Next Week’s: Episode - “Compromised” (Date: 4 Nov 2016)
Article:https://www.comicbookmovie.com/tv/dc/legends_of_tomorrow/new-extended-promo-for-legends-of-tomorrow-season-2-episode-5-compromised-a146519

Episode: “Compromised” [Season 2 Episode 5]

Air Date: Thursday, November 10, 2016

Summary: The Legends trace a time quake to the White House during Ronald Reagan's presidency and discover that Damien Darhk is a Senior Adviser.

Director: David Geddes

Writers: Keto Shimizu and Grainne Godfree

IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt5584104/?ref_=ttep_ep5

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