Tom is joined by the BHA’s Chief Regulatory Officer Brant Dunshea to discuss the governing body’s position on the new whip rules and give some insight into what the near future looks like. Newsboy of the Daily Mirror Dave Yates is today’s guest and he has plenty to say on the matter given his longstanding position on whip rules and his dissatisfaction with the majority of proposed modifications. We head to America and to the Thoroughbred Idea Foundation's Executive Director Pat Cummings to discuss Kentucky’s adoption of penny breakage which comes into effect on Friday. And we head to Hong Kong and to Jim McGrath.