The fourth episode of Conversations Late at Night from artists Cody Ellingham and Simon James French. In this episode we talk all about dipping our toes into the NFT world, The Metaverse, The Hacker Ethos as a way of life, living on a commune and hosting an artist retreat.  ••• Links to a few of the things we talk about in this episode. Be curious: 狂った一頁 (Kurutta Ippeji) • A Page of Madness Way of Ozu Malcolm Gladwell • Outliers DERIVE Moments (our NFT stuff) Village Kit Almost Perfect Tokyo Ting Shuo ※ All music, unless otherwise stated, was composed by SJF. If you like the podcast and would like to support it, please share it with a loved one. SJF's Patreon • Cody's Patreon Ask questions or let us know what you think in our Signal group.