That's not from me. That's from local Mat Factory heavyweight Julian Flenory (who is 3-0 himself inside that cage).

Julian popped into the live stream of the Pittsburgh Combat Sports Podcast with Ethan Hayes to drop off that gem –– and he's not wrong.

Not wrong at all.

Ethan is 3-1 in pro MMA action and 3-0 in pro boxing, and he's constantly growing and evolving as a fighter.

To hear him tell it though?

Well, we'll just say the road wasn't easy. And it still isn't easy. And it probably never will be easy.

Speaking with 247 Fighting Championships General Manager Hunter Homistek, Ethan discusses his career to this point, his future with both sports, and much more.

He even drops off a little secret for you the next time you're ordering coffee at Sheetz.

It's a good one, friends. Promise.

Enjoy the show