And on the seventh ask I granted Steve Kiessling his request to visit the podcast. It's timely too, as the other day Steve and our friend Laura at Humane Ohio were part of a Blade story about feral cats in the area. Steve is the Cumulus community affairs guest this week. After that part of the visit, we talk about his very circuitous route to Toledo.  Before that, college debt erasure has me quite concerned. Perhaps even more so than the acknowledgment those UFOs are not man made. WHAT!?