Vox's Dylan Matthews talks with Julia Galef, host of the podcast Rationally Speaking, and author of The Scout Mindset: Why Some People See Things Clearly and Others Don't. They discuss how we can overcome the ways our own minds deceive us and change the way we think to make more rational decisions.

Host: Dylan Matthews (@dylanmatt), Senior Correspondent, Vox

Guest: Julia Galef (@juliagalef), Author; host of Rationally Speaking podcast

References: 

• The Scout Mindset: Why Some People See Things Clearly and Others Don't by Julia Galef (Apr. 2021)

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• Producer: Erikk Geannikis
• Editor: Amy Drozdowska
• Engineer: Paul Mounsey
• VP, Vox Audio: Liz Kelly Nelson

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