People walk around San Francisco in Make America Great Again hats. Major CEOs endorse Trump. JD Vance is a hit among the crypto whales.  So what? It's part, perhaps, of a cultural change in Silicon Valley: a swing decisively to the right in a state famed for its contributions to radical politics, from the Black Panthers to the counterculture. There's no one better to understand this change than Malcolm Harris, author of Palo Alto: A History of California, Capitalism, and the World. He explains to Richard Hames how military tech links the sunny settler colonies of California and Israel, how Elon Musk became indispensable to NATO, and whether or not computer have their own politics, man.