Ben Smith spent eight years building BuzzFeed News into a publication that could compete with the New York Times. Now he’s going to the New York Times as its media columnist. He sits down with Recode’s Peter Kafka to explain why he’s going, and what it means - or doesn’t mean - for digital media.

Featuring: Ben Smith (@BuzzFeedBen) Editor-In-Chief of BuzzFeed News

Host: Peter Kafka (@pkafka), Senior Editor at Recode

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