Something different for episode 18. Former guest, athlete, and coach, Steve Hobbs (The Milestone Pursuit) from episode 6 returns to reflect on his 10th London marathon, and his views on the elite finishers in the men's and women's race as well as the problems the marathon faces as a spectator sport. We delve into what it takes to finish well in a marathon, from a psychological perspective and contrast his experience with a first-time runner, Claire Heron, who also competed in the same race. While experienced runners have had the time to develop and refine their psychological skills and abilities, we dig into what might be useful advice and guidance for people considering taking part in their first marathon distance. What to expect, how to prepare, and tips to help them cope and manage in order to enjoy the day and get the most out of the experience. Thanks to both Steve and Claire.