Craig welcomes Claire Staples (The Clarity Podcast) and Sarah Perry (Voluntarism in Action) for a deeply honest conversation about chronic illness, church hurt, and what it really means to follow Jesus. Drawing from their personal experiences in the LDS Church, Claire and Sarah unpack how institutional religion—particularly within Mormonism—can create a culture that sidelines the suffering instead of stepping toward them.
The episode doesn’t shy away from hard truths: how church systems can often mirror state structures, how chronic illness is misunderstood and neglected, and how church members are sometimes conditioned to fear rather than embrace the suffering. But at its core, this is a conversation about Jesus—how He touched the untouchable, sat with the rejected, and showed us a better way.
From the Good Samaritan to the story of Job, this episode is a call back to the Gospel’s heart: love God, love your neighbor, and never forget the people Jesus was most drawn to—the overlooked, the hurting, and the left behind. God set us up to learn how to love. So let’s do it.
🎧 Listen to the full episode now for wisdom, scripture, and encouragement—and reflect on how your own church community can better walk with the hurting.
Together, let’s close the gap between suffering and faith—and build churches that look more like Jesus.
🔥 Key Takeaways:Claire shares faith-centered conversations on recovering from high-demand religion, chronic illness, and returning to Christ-centered living.
Sarah volunteers with VIA, a liberty-rooted nonprofit providing direct aid and resources to communities in need—without state involvement.
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Starting Points and Key Moments:
(00:22) Exploring Christian Responsibility in Healthcare
(00:45) Claire and Sarah's Background with Chronic Illness
(02:11) Claire's Nonprofit Work
(04:30) Sarah's Experience with Chronic Illness and Church
(07:41) Church Leadership Response to Illness
(12:07) Comparing Church Experiences to Cult Documentaries
(17:21) Cultural Influences on Church Attitudes Towards Illness
(25:48) The Role of Medical System in Church Attitudes
(30:28) LDS Church's Relationship with Government and Healthcare
(36:06) Scriptural Solutions for Caring for the Sick
(49:33) The Book of Job and Suffering
(1:03:38) Why Bad Things Happen to Good People
(1:12:26) God's Love and Community Support
(1:15:11) Closing Thoughts and Plugs
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