**Help support the show as we get back to making new episodes. You can donate right on our website YouGetAPodcast.com** This episode, we look at Oprah’s love/hate — or maybe hate/love — relationship with hip-hop. We break down two key moments: a 1990 episode about rap music featuring Ice-T, Tipper Gore, and Juan Williams; and then Oprah’s very warm interview with Jay-Z about a decade later. Our guest for this episode is C. Brandon Ogbunu, Assistant Professor in the Department of Ecology and Evolutionary Biology at Yale University. You Get A Podcast is hosted and executive produced by Kellie Carter Jackson, with co-host Leah Wright Rigueur. You Get A Podcast is produced by Roulette Productions. Executive Producer Jody Avirgan. Producer Nina Earnest. Artwork by Jonathan Conda. We are a proud member of Radiotopia from PRX. Your support helps foster independent, artist-owned podcasts and award-winning stories. Class dismissed!