Karl comes from a long line of con men. He says both his grandfather and father were swindlers. It's only natural that Karl slipped into the family business.In today's episode, Karl talks about bribing corrupt company building managers. He says he sold them cheap light bulbs, trash can liners, and cleaning supplies at a premium price. In exchange for buying overpriced products, Karl would send these building managers gifts and cash. He made lots of money working as a B2B telemarketer. He eventually started his own company doing the same scheme. Karl admits that what he was doing was unethical, but surely it wasn't illegal. Finally, he got his answer when the FBI and the Postal Inspector's office showed with a subpoena.Jerri Williams, the FBI agent who busted him, says she could have locked him up right then and there—but she had bigger plans for Karl.----Special thanks to Jerri Williams for contributing her episode titled, "Karl LNU."This episode was written and produced by Javier Leiva and Jerri Williams.Subscribe to Pretend Radio:Apple Podcasts:tiny.cc/PretendApplePodcastGoogle Play:tiny.cc/PretendGooglePlay http://jerriwilliams.com/cooperating-witness-telemarketing-fraud/You can learn more about Jerri Williams at jerriwilliams.com---This episode includes promos from the following independent podcasts:-Maurer Glass Podcast-The Breakers Podcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices