Niels Jorgensen is a former New York firefighter for over 21 years, who was there at Ground Zero on September 11th, 2001. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors: – ROKA: https://roka.com/ and use code LEX to get 20% off your first order – MUD\WTR: https://mudwtr.com/lex and use code LEX to get 5% off – Magic Spoon: https://magicspoon.com/lex and use code LEX to get $5 off – Blinkist: https://blinkist.com/lex and use code LEX to get 25% off premium EPISODE LINKS: Niels’s 20 for 20 Podcast: https://ironlightlabs.org/20-for-20/ PODCAST INFO: Podcast website: https://lexfridman.com/podcast Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/2lwqZIr Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2nEwCF8 RSS: https://lexfridman.com/feed/podcast/ YouTube Full Episodes: https://youtube.com/lexfridman YouTube Clips: https://youtube.com/lexclips SUPPORT & CONNECT: – Check out the sponsors above, it’s the best way to support this podcast – Support on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/lexfridman – Twitter: https://twitter.com/lexfridman – Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lexfridman – LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lexfridman – Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/lexfridman – Medium: https://medium.com/@lexfridman OUTLINE: Here’s the timestamps for the episode. On some podcast players you should be able to click the timestamp to jump to that time. (00:00) – Introduction (08:52) – September 11, 2001 (36:48) – Falling man (40:58) – Ground Zero (47:17) – 20 for 20 (50:27) – What it means to be a great firefighter (53:11) – Why did you become a firefighter? (55:00) – Tally Ho (57:46) – New view of the world (1:05:16) – Empathy (1:09:49) – Leukemia (1:25:18) – New York City (1:31:28) – John Feal (1:44:57) – Conspiracy theories (1:53:45) – Faith (1:55:44) – Modern communication (2:00:11) – Hand written letters (2:14:02) – Love (2:25:45) – War in Afghanistan (2:37:24) – Brave stories from 9/11