Is your need to be right getting in the way of your relationship? It's a trait that award-winning public speaker, best-selling author and stubbornness expert, Michael McQueen, has had to unlearn. Michael and his wife, theatre-maker and lecturer Hailey McQueen, are dropping pearls of wisdom all over the bathroom floor today. They chat to Cam and Ali about negotiating differences in a relationship, navigating loss early into dating, career rough patches, poor fashion decisions, stubborn kids, and the incongruity of driving to Centrelink in a Lexis. LINKS  Read Micheal's latest book Mindstuck: Mastering the Art of Changing Minds Learn more about Michael's speaking career michaelmcqueen.net Check out Hailey's upcoming productions clockandspielproductions.com Follow Michael on Instagram @michaeljmcqueen Follow Hailey on Instagram @haileymcqueen Follow Cam on Instagram @camerondaddo.  Follow Ali on Instagram @alidaddo.  Follow Nova Podcasts @novapodcastsofficial.  Got a question for Cam & Ali? You can email them at separatebathrooms@novapodcasts.com.au. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.