Running a band is more than just playing music—it’s a business, and this week, you’re getting a front-row seat to the real numbers behind a self-promoted, four-walled show. Dave and guest co-host Mike Schulte from Pork Tornadoes break down the hard costs, from union labor to venue staff, and what it takes to make those ticket prices work. Is the venue actually promoting your gig, or are you on your own? Or is it better when you work together? And when it comes to pricing tiers, always prioritize the fan experience—because that’s what keeps them coming back. Whether it’s VIP tickets or GA floor, every decision affects your bottom line. Always Be Performing means knowing the game as well as you know your instrument. Beyond the business, you’ve got to deliver on stage. Dave and Mike dig into the power of stage banter, the hidden advantage of playing in original bands when learning covers, and why oversaturation is a real risk. Are exclusive endorsements worth it, or are they just another trap? And let’s not ignore the elephant in the room: lip-syncing. Is there ever a place for it in live music? This episode is packed with insights that’ll sharpen your gigging strategy and keep your performance—and your career—on point. 00:00:00 Gig Gab 473 – Monday, March 17th, 2025 March 17th: Act Happy Day Guest co-host: Mike Schulte from Pork Tornadoes Dark Matter Promo Code GIGGAB15 00:01:01 Having Paul Kent back on Gig Gab! 00:02:04 Did the venue do the promo? Cover Band Central on Facebook 00:06:22 You’re running a business 00:14:41 Cost Breakdown of Four-walling a show for 1,600 people Building rental: $2,000 Union Stage Hands Labor: $6,100 Venue Staff (ticket-takers, ushers): $1,200 Cleaning Fee: $500 Box Office Fees (staff, credit cards): $1,000 Opening Act (45min set):  $1,200 External Production Company (lights and sound): $5,000 Advertising: $1,750 Crew: $925 Catering/Hospitality/Hotels: $1,050 That’s $20,750 (aka $12.95 per person with 1,600 attendees) $50 VIP Pit tickets, $25 GA Floor 00:23:46 On the subject of stage banter 00:28:25 Oversaturation awareness Dave’s rant about exclusive endorsements 00:33:46 Moral: take risks! 00:34:45 Dave’s Rehearsal/Sound-Check 00:43:48 Using Pricing Tiers Prioritize the fan experience 00:46:45 The value of having played in original bands when learning cover songs Mike’s Dope Walker 00:57:58 Lip Syncing? 01:01:42 Gig Gab 473 Outtro Follow Mike Schulte Confused Breakfast The Pork Tornadoes Contact Gig Gab! @GigGabPodcast on Instagram feedback@giggabpodcast.com Sign Up for the Gig Gab Mailing List   The post $20K to Rock? The True Cost of Putting on a Show — Gig Gab 473 appeared first on Gig Gab.