Steve Hewlett talks to Janice Hadlow, the controller of BBC Two and Four about losing The Great British Bake Off to BBC1 and her priorities for the channels. How can BBC2 and BBC4 be distinctive in a multi-channel world?Sir Ray Tindle joins Steve to explain how his local newspapers have remained profitable when many around him are losing money - and what he thinks of plans to regulate local news. Martin Moore, director of the Media Standards Trust, picks up on issues affecting local papers and discusses the findings of the MST's recent poll which appears to show support for the Royal Charter. Earlier today, The Sun published its poll appearing to show the opposite. Producer: Katy Takatsuki Editor: Andy Smith.