Great conversation with Scott Ammons from REI. Scott tells all about REI Outreach and Adventures. We also talk about his outdoor experience, the California Outdoor Recreation Partnership and more. Facebook Twitter Instagram The Outdoor Biz Podcast Support the show Please give us a rating and review HERE Show Notes First Exposure to the Outdoors I got started because my grandparents, my grandpa in particular was a little bit of an outdoorsman. He was a farmer in Yuma, Arizona. When I was a kid they were still living in Yuma, on the edge of the desert and his idea of fun was to spend the day just driving out into the desert with his truck and a whole bunch of ATVs. Those three wheeled death machines. So we spent a lot of time adventuring around in the Arizona desert. They also had a second house up by Lake Powell. At other times of the year when it was 120 degrees in Yuma we would go hang out up there. So we spent a lot of time adventuring around slick rock canyons and out in the desert. That's where I think it originally came from, just spending a whole lot of time messing about in the desert. Things we talked about Chadwick High School NOLS REI REI Adventures Kern River Tours Boojum Friends of the LA River Friends of the Angeles Forest The Santa Monica Mountains Fund The Sierra Club Sierra Mountain Center California Outdoor Recreation Partnership Outdoor Industry Association The Access Fund Friends of Joshua Tree Advice, tips One of the first things you need to do, you have to find ways to get that initial professional experience. It's great to have spent a lot of time backpacking on your own or taking your friends out. But you need to find a place to stretch and grow those muscles to work as an instructor, as an educator, there's places like the sierra club or a trip leader at REI, that's a great way to get experience, trip leading learning from them. I tend to push people that have some outdoor experience but no guiding experience to look to the Sierra Club or look to other nonprofits that do outdoor work. Like our REI Adventures in Los Angeles is another great place where you can help take kids outside. Look around for those entry level camps and volunteer opportunities where you can be involved in taking people outside is one way that I always suggest to people. In the outdoor industry it's good to have a little bit of authenticity. No one says that you need to go out there and be some kind of expeditionary bad ass, but just spending time outside, whether that's surfing, running, walking the dog, going for a day hike, doing a little bit of backpacking. All of that is great. Particularly if you're looking at wanting to get started with REI and retail or in another outdoor retailer. Just having that little bit of outdoor authenticity goes a long way. Other Outdoor Activities Stand up Paddling Running Cycling Favorite Books/Apps Cryptonomicon by Neil Stevenson Best Gear Purchase under $100 O'Neil Reactor insulated top Connect with Scott ammons@rei.com Linkedin Welcome to a podcast dedicated to outdoor enthusiasts looking to elevate their outdoor careers while embracing the freedom and joy of outdoor adventure. We dive deep into outdoor recreation, adventure travel, and outdoor activities, helping you find the best outdoor jobs that fit your ideal outdoor life. Whether you're seeking career growth or just more time to get outdoors, we've got you covered.