1997 Timeless Voyager Radio is joined by Robert Shapiro and "Endtime Historian"energy source who calls himself, "Zoosh". Shapiro is firm about the fact that Zoosh is NOT a dead person but rather a being who is "heartfelt" and completely positive in nature. Bruce Stephen Holms takes a "backseat during the interview and allows Zoosh to speak for most of the 40 minute program.

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