This is the second of two episodes based on interviews recorded at the 2019 African Critical Inquiry Workshop: African Ethnographies conference that was held at the University of the Western Cape in Cape Town, South Africa by Sara Rendell and Dina Asfaha from the Department of Anthropology at the University of Pennsylvania. In the the first part of this episode, you will hear a conversation between Dina Asfaha and Kharnita Mohamed – a lecturer at the University of Cape Town. Her research focuses on issues of race, gender, disability, and identity in post-Apartheid South Africa. She is also a novelist, publishing her debut “Called to Song” in 2018 with Kwela Books. In the second half, Sara Rendell returns for an interview with Dominique Santos – a Lecturer at Rhodes University, whose work explores the nexus of music, play, dreaming and heritage practices as they intersect with intimate experiences of the self, space and social change, as well as on dreams and the role of dreaming in refusing the conditions of oppression.  NB: Due to circumstances out of our control, there are parts of this recording with less than ideal sound quality. The episode transcript and close-captioned versions of the episode (linked below) may be a useful resource for following along with the conversation should you have a hard time making out any part of the recording.  Episode Transcript Close-Captioning Credits:  Producer & Editor: Kyle Olson Executive Producer - Anar Parikh   Thumbnail Image: Madison Paulk Transition Music: Huku by Sho Madjozi Intro/Outro Music: "Waiting" by Crowander"  Sound Effects: Mike Koenig Episode