In this super special edition of the Caged Vision Podcast, I interview Brigadier General (Brig Gen) Shawn Campbell. We discuss his nearly 3 decades of leadership in the US Air Force and newly minted US Space Force. Brig Gen Campbell dives into how doing things differently as a leader is many times what is required to reverse failure and achieve success. He is an example of a true pioneer in change management and transformation on a massive scale. For example, his instrumental efforts in building the first new independent service of the DoD in nearly 75 years from the ground up - the new USSF. If that wasn’t enough, he was on a tight budget and an even tighter timeline. You have to hear this story.  It shows that we can all accomplish more than we ever believed possible. He drops an amazing quote from Churchill, "Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm.” He provides some great examples of both successes and failures he himself experienced throughout his life and military service. He is now responsible for nearly 700K Total Force personnel and over $60B in funding annually..almost hard to imagine. It was truly an honor to have Brig Gen Campbell on the podcast, and I highly recommend listening to his insights. "If you’re standing still, you’re actually moving backward” ~Brig Gen Shawn Campbell