It’s with a heavy heart and sense of pride that we bid you, dear listeners, farewell. Yes, this is the series finale of Chosen Family, but we’re not leaving without one last soulful, deep conversation. Joining us for this bittersweet episode is the brilliant Miguel Gutierrez, New York-based choreographer, composer, performer, singer, writer, educator and one of our favourite people. We spoke about Madonna, the complexity of gender identity, and the connection between sobriety and the creative process. We thank you from the bottom of our hearts for listening to us for these last three seasons. Even though this is the last episode, these conversations are timeless and they will always be there for you to return to. We are so proud of this body work; it’s been a true honour to make this show. Sending you all our love!