Highlights of my conversation with Leon: Is moving into management the right next step for an employee Create opportunities for an employee to gain some exposure to management Helping employees navigate different career tracks Finding the best fit for people you manage The (possibly false) allure of moving into management Keep evolving and growing your own managerial skills Easier to take an opportunity to lead than wait for it to be given Meet: Leon Fayer is a Vice President of Engineering at Teaching Strategies, a leader in early childhood education. He is a veteran technologist with over two decades of expertise focused on developing, architecting, and operating complex systems in support of organizational growth. Over his professional career, Leon worked with some of the most world-renowned organizations and agencies such as National Geographic, MTV, Wikipedia, Vodafone, White House, Toyota, and Soul Cycle.  Leon is also a published author and an industry-renowned public speaker, writing and presenting on topics of industry trends and best practices, sharing his experience related to designing and operating technology-first organizations at scale. If you have any questions for Leon, please feel free to reach out via: https://twitter.com/papa_fire https://www.linkedin.com/in/leonfayer I hope you enjoyed the episode. The best place to connect with me is on Linkedin - https://www.linkedin.com/in/amirbormand (Amir Bormand). Please send me a message if you want me to cover specific topics with future guests.