On this episode of Slate Money, Neil Irwin, author of The Alchemists: Three Central Bankers and a World on Fire, joins hosts Felix Salmon of Fusion, Cathy O’Neil of mathbabe.org, and Slate’s Moneybox columnist Jordan Weissmann. This week is all about Neel Kashkari of the Minneapolis Fed's new solution for our too-big-to-fail banks.

Topics discussed on today’s show include:

-How to break up the biggest banks. 

-How we could turn banks into public utilities.

-How to take away the tax-deductibility of interest. 

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