Heather is joined by her friend and producer extraordinaire Liz Astroff for an honest and hilarious conversation about constantly having to pivot as a parent, embracing the stages and ages your kids are in, and dealing with your husband's potential midlife crisis during a pandemic. Heather also opens up about Nicky’s health issues and how a misdiagnosis was finally resolved. Liz gives us all the details on the new show she’s producing aptly called “Pivoting”. Plus, did you know that Heather was Liz’s pledge master? Hear all about their memorable adventures while at Syracuse and in words of a young Heather-- you’re going to want to “bring a tampon and a pillow” for this one.

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