Why do tech CEOs and visionaries use religious language—and what, if anything, does it have to do with organized religion? We talk Mary-Jane Rubenstein, Professor of Religion and Science in Society at Wesleyan, about unity, infinity, simulated realities, NASA, and how human beings have sought to make meaning of their world.Reading List: Homo Deus by Yuval Noah Harari Astrotopia by Mary-Jane Rubenstein Worlds Without End by Mary-Jane Rubenstein Parable of the Sower by Octavia Butler The Ones Who Walk Away from Omelas by Ursula K. Le Guin The Broken Earth Trilogy by N.K. Jemisin Penseés by Blaise Pascal Fear and Trembling by Søren Kierkegaard The Imitation of Christ by Thomas à Kempis The Varieties of Religious Experience by William James Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices