Tony interviews demonologist, Nathaniel Gillis, who has spent 20 years researching what he would come to define as Preternatural Epiphenomenal Philosophy. It is his belief that Demonology is not the study of new life, rather, the study of "old life in a new way". He's often quoted for his concept of the demonic. "The reason they are playing by different rules is because they are playing a different game." Nathaniel has sought to redefine the nature of haunting phenomena, ghosts, aliens, demons, and other experiences of high strangeness.

BOOKS:
A Moment Called Man
https://www.amazon.com/Moment-Called-Man-Nathaniel-Gillis/dp/B07Y4NDY92

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