I'm so excited to have a new pal, Alana Carvalho, a licensed mental health counselor, on the show to talk about two topics we're both passionate about: codependency and perfectionism!

We talk about why these two things go together, our experiences of being in recovery from both, what inspired Alana to create The Codependent Perfectionist brand, how to ease up on perfectionism and codependent behaviors, and so much more. 

I hope you enjoy our conversation as much as I did!

Read the show notes for today's episode at terricole.com/731