Welcome to part 2 of Life in a Herd! In this series we're journeying with our picnicking epidemiologist upstream to find out who it is who's chucking the bodies of our modern world into the river. In this episode we talk with Professor Penny Hawe, from the Menzies Centre for Health Policy at the University of Sydney.Enjoy!The Wholesome Show is Dr Rod Lamberts (@rodl) and Dr Will Grant (@willozap), proudly supported by the Australian National Centre for the Public Awareness of Science (@ANU_CPAS)! This series has been produced with some research funding for a studentship from The Australian Prevention Partnership Centre.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.