In this wide ranging conversation with Elizabeth Corey, we take up the fundamental question that has animated this podcast series: What is liberal learning? Along the way we consider the challenges faced by those who would liberally educate students today (including our brightest students), the higher purposes of liberal education, and consider liberal education's future.  We also reflect on how liberal education can inform our approach to work, how the life of the academic and liberal education might become illiberal (while looking liberal from the outside), and the conditions—particularly the habits of reading and mind—that are necessary for liberal education to take place. Elizabeth Corey, Michael Oakeshott on Religion, Aesthetics, and Politics Elizabeth Corey, “Michael Oakeshott’s Conservative Disposition” Elizabeth Corey, “No Happy Harmony” A.G. Sertillanges, The Intellectual Life: Its Spirit, Conditions, Methods Pieper, Leisure the Basis of Culture John Paul II, Laborem exercens