This week, Jonathan sits down with long time friend Richard Shumack to unpick the shocking revelations regarding the sexual misconduct of Ravi Zacharias, one of the biggest global evangelists since Billy Graham. Richard has an association with RZIM going back to 2005. He has worked on several RZIM projects, taught and conducted training on behalf of the organisation and has deep and longstanding friendships with figures throughout the organisation, including in the executive. After discussing Richard's personal experience of RZIM, the way the organisation has handled the allegations against Ravi from the time they first arose to the report released by the Board on 9 February, where culpability lies in relation to the scandal, and what the future portends for RZIM, Jonathan and Richard embark on a wider discussion about Christian leaders behaving badly and what this says about Christianity in the 21st century. The Report of Independent Investigation into Sexual Misconduct of Ravi Zacharias undertaken by Miller & Martin can be found here. The RZIM Board's open letter in response to the Miller & Martin report can be found here.  Dr Richard Shumack is a philosopher of religion who directs the Arthur Jeffery Centre for Islamic Studies at Melbourne School of Theology and pastors Trinity Chapel at Robert Menzies College, Macquarie University. His doctoral research at the University of Melbourne focussed on how people come to have religious beliefs and how they go about establishing their certainty in those beliefs. His publications include a philosophical apologetic entitled The Wisdom of Islam and the Foolishness of Christianity, and the more popular level Jesus through Muslim Eyes.