Bryan Clark, senior fellow and director of the Center for Defense Concepts and Technology at Hudson Institute, joins the show to talk about how a war with China could play out.

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Times 

    •      01:51 Introduction

    •      02:00 Submariner

    •      10:10 Environmental conditions  

    •      12:40 State of play 

    •      20:04 Complacency      

    •      23:36 Hellscape     

    •      32:14 Cultural differences 

    •      37:20 Party control

    •      43:40 Degraded environment  

    •      48:02 Practice now

    •      51:45 Deterrence

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