If the Coalition wins the federal election, Peter Dutton wants to appoint his own Elon Musk to cut government spending. 

Senator Jacinta Nampijinpa Price is now the shadow minister for government efficiency, a title that echoes the Department Of Government Efficiency in the United States. 

So, what will be on the chopping block? And do Australians really want a Trump-style DOGE?

Today, Mark Kenny, director of the Australian Studies Institute at the Australian National University, on whether slashing the public service really saves money in the end. 

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Mark Kenny, director of the Australian Studies Institute at the Australian National University and host of ‘Democracy Sausage’ podcast