Episode 144 - On his first (and last) stint on the Vans Warped Tour, Shane sits down with his pal Frank Turner to discuss: Dry touring, his first Warped Tour, email, writing his second book, writing a new album already, songwriting, arranging songs, navigating a backing band, egos in the music industry, Make America Great Again, Being More Kind, and THE WORLD EXCLUSIVE of his new side project "Eating Before Swimming"... and seriously a lot more! Action packed - of course a must listen. Congrats on your engagement Frank!  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices