Welcome back to Therapy Chat! This week host Laura Reagan, LCSW-C welcomes back guests Kelly Higdon and Miranda Palmer, therapists and coaches who help therapists in private practice build businesses they don't need to recover from. Today's conversation was focused on burnout. Kelly and Miranda explained how burnout mirrors a trauma response. They talked about burnout as a systemic issue rather than a personal failure.    Host Laura shared about her decision to stop working with clients in this episode, which was recorded in June, 2022. Listen in to this conversation which includes: How burnout might not be obvious to you, but people around you probably realize it; How we live within a system that is oppressive to the individual, and those who suffer with burnout are simply trying hard to do a good job; Self advocacy as a therapist; Using your body as a guide; Discerning intuition from fear and more! SPECIAL OFFER FOR THERAPY CHAT LISTENERS!   Kelly + Miranda's Business School For Therapists is open for enrollment now! Save $125 off the registration fee using Therapy Chat's affiliate link!    Thank you to TherapyNotes for sponsoring this week's episode! TherapyNotes makes billing, scheduling, notetaking, and telehealth incredibly easy. And now, for all you prescribers out there, TherapyNotes is proudly introducing E-prescribe! Find out what more than 100,000 mental health professionals already know, and try TherapyNotes for 2 months, absolutely free. Try it today with no strings attached, and see why everyone is switching to TherapyNotes. Now featuring E-prescribe. Use promo code "chat" at www.therapynotes.com to receive 2 FREE months of TherapyNotes! Thank you also to The Receptionist for iPad for sponsoring this week’s episode. It’s the highest-rated digital check-in software for therapy offices and behavioral health clinics, used by thousands of practitioners across the country. Start a 14-day free trial of The Receptionist for iPad by going to www.thereceptionist.com/therapychat and when you do, you'll also get your first month free when you sign up!  This episode is also sponsored by Trauma Therapist Network. Learn about trauma, connect with resources and find a trauma therapist near you at www.traumatherapistnetwork.com. We believe that trauma is real, healing is possible and help is available. Therapists, registration opens in October for Trauma Therapist Network membership. Join Therapy Chat host Laura Reagan and a compassionate and skilled group of trauma therapists for weekly calls focused on Self Care, Case Consultation, Q&A and Training.  Get on the waiting list now to be the first to know when registration opens! Sign up here https://go.traumatherapistnetwork.com/join  Podcast produced by Pete Bailey - https://petebailey.net/audio  Our Sponsors:* Check out Everyday Dose and use my code CHAT for a great deal: https://everydaydose.com* Check out Happy Mammoth and use my code CHAT for a great deal: https://happymammoth.com* Check out PharmaNutra and use my code CHAT for a great deal: https://pharmanutra-us.com* Check out Washington Red Raspberries: https://redrazz.orgAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands