Frank Gavin, the Giovanni Agnelli Distinguished Professor and inaugural director of the Henry A. Kissinger Center for Global Affairs at Johns Hopkins SAIS and contributor to War in Ukraine: Conflict, Strategy, and the Return of a Fractured World, joins the show to talk about nuclear strategy and the war in Ukraine.

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    •      01:36 Introduction 

    •      01:53 What are nuclear weapons for?

    •      04:15 Pervasive but not used

    •      09:53 Invasion insurance

    •      17:58 Better to be near-nuclear  

    •      22:26 How might Putin use nuclear weapons? 

    •      26:04 Learning by doing

    •      33:48 “It’s all happening at once”

    •      41:31 Rattling the saber works  

    •      48:04 “We will get them back”    

    •      50:07 History and Strategy

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