The fourth trimester? What is it? What does that even mean? We've done the hard yards with the pregnancy and the birth, can't we just focus on the baby now?! In this series we share conversations with leading experts that cover every angle of the fourth trimester and why taking care of the mother is so vital during this season of motherhood.Today's expert is Naomi Chrisoulakis. Naomi and I went to high school together, many moons ago - so it was so nice to reconnect in what feels like another lifetime and over such an important topic.Naomi is a post-partum doula - she focuses on the fourth trimester and supports mothers in every way through this next stage of life. I've invested in this next stage and Naomi shares with us why its vital to invest in support rather than expensive gadgets for newborns.You can find out more about Naomi on her website cocoonbynaomi.com or Instagram @cocoonbynaomi.This episode is proudly brought to you by ergoPouch. Head to www.ergopouch.com.au and use discount code TDEP20 for 20% off your order (excluding Outlet, Packs, Canvas Bags & Gift Vouchers. Valid until 1 July 2021).Credits:Joanne Helder - ProducerCaleb Jacobs - MusicAJ Davis - Comms ManagerPlease DM us your thoughts and burning questions to @whatsthedeep or head to zoemarshall.com/thedeep.The Deep is a place for you. If you love it please subscribe and leave us a rating or comment if that tickles your fancy.The Deep acknowledge the Traditional Custodians of the land on which we work and live, and recognise their continuing connection to land, water and community. We pay respect to Elders past, present and emerging.