In this episode of the father/daughter podcast, Ruth tells dad that in the era of 'deep fake,' the only way to protect yourself is to go completely off grid, says that anyone who has Alexa or similar device is an idiot, and describes a cupboard full of cereal is the impossible dream. Dad, meanwhile, tells Ruth how children are brought up in Israel, tries a rightly derided Geordie accent, and plays Prefab Sprout.

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