On episode 8 of We Can't Do It Alone, Nōn sits down with comedian, actor and writer Daniel Van Kirk to explore human adaptability, why helping is an unspoken part of a single-parent home, the importance of celebrating while we're still in it, and why working hard and being kind gets you the second job. According to Nōn, Daniel is a sweetie pie, even if he might look like he can rough you up.

Helpful things mentioned during this episode:

• Daniel Van Kirk
• @danielvankirk
• Rose Gold (Daniel's comedy special!)
• Wine Club
• Pen Pals (latest eps on Patreon, backlog on Apple)
• The Midnight Air
• Dumb People Town

How you can support Nōn and this independently-run podcast:

• Leave a 5-star rating and a wildly glowing review for We Can't Do It Alone on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your pods.
• Share your helpers with Nōn here and he may (or may not but still be delighted) share your helper on the podcast in season 2.
• Order The Feely Cards on Bookshop.org, Amazon, Barnes & Noble, or your local indie bookseller for yourself and literally everyone you know.

Thank you for listening to We Can't Do It Alone! Don't forget about the helpers. We all need help. Even you.