Thank you for joining us for episode 24 of Conversations Late at Night, the podcast where we discuss creativity in a chaotic world. This week's conversation touches on the psychological immune system (and it was William B. Irvine that Simon was trying to remember the name of!), becoming more politically engaged once things start affecting you personally, getting started with donating to charity by helping just one person, using the term 'brother' more and how good it feels to be genuinely friendly to hospitality staff you meet.  Cody also throws in some ideas he's currently working on with something he's tentatively calling the Wander Diary.  And sometimes we need to take the long way home so that we can open ourselves up to new experiences and joy.  Enjoy! ••• Head to www.conversationslateatnight.com for more episodes. ※ All music composed by SJF. Photography by Cody Ellingham. If you like the podcast and want to support it, please share it with a loved one, subscribe and leave a review. SJF's Patreon • Cody's Patreon Chat with us, ask questions or let us know your thoughts in our Signal group; a place where creatives of all mediums are coming together to share work and offer support.