Here to discuss societal mind-control in its many forms are the researcher Crrow777 and his podcast co-host Jason Lindgren.Our chat begins by considering how entertainment - and the music industry in particular - is used to subliminally influence the collective mindset of the general public. Crrow and Jason cite many examples.Around midway, the conversation changes tack as we consider the cosmology of the place we live, and the mass deceptions that have been foisted on us in this regard. We reflect on the recent US solar eclipse, considering what viewers may really have witnessed, and how it ties into the true nature of the Earth. As we conclude, it's so often easier to explain something by eliminating what it's definitely not, rather than claiming to have all the answers as to what it is.An intelligent and thought-provoking exchange of views throughout.