Starling Tribune – ONE SHOT – Justice League 2017 (A CW Network Arrow Television Show Fan Podcast) ST177
Starling Tribune – ONE SHOT – Justice League 2017 (A CW Network Arrow Television Show Fan Podcast) ST177
The Official Arrow and Green Arrow Podcast of the Gonna Geek Network Covering DC Comics and CW Based DC Comic TV Shows
JUSTICE LEAGUE
Release date: November 17, 2017 (United States)
Reported budget: $300 million
Running time: 120 minutes
Produced by: Charles Roven, Deborah Snyder, Jon Berg, and Geoff Johns
Director: Zack Snyder (with help from Joss Whedon)
Writing Credits:
Screenplay by: Chris Terrio and Joss Whedon
Story by: Chris Terrio & Zack Snyder
Superman created by Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster
Justice League of America created by Gardner Fox
Batman created by Bob Kane and Bill Finger
Wonder Woman created by William Moulton Marston
Fourth World created by Jack Kirby -
Jack Kirby's Fourth World is a turn of phrase commonly attributed to a family of titles created in the 1970s by writer/illustrator Jack Kirby. When Jack Kirby returned to working for DC Comics in the 1970s, he introduced what would become known as the Fourth World concept. He created a science-fiction based mythology revolving around ancient space deities known as the New Gods. Similar to the gods of Earth lore, the New Gods were larger than life, possessing fantastic powers, which they used in a never-ending struggle between good and evil. Fourth World characters include Steppenwolf and Darkseid. (http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Jack_Kirby%27s_Fourth_World)
MAIN CAST
Ben Affleck - Batman / Bruce Wayne,
Henry Cavill - Superman / Clark Kent
Amy Adams - Lois Lane
Gal Gadot - Wonder Woman / Diana Prince
Ezra Miller - The Flash / Barry Allen
Jason Momoa - Aquaman / Arthur Curry
Ray Fisher - Cyborg / Victor Stone
Jeremy Irons - Alfred
Diane Lane - Martha Kent
Connie Nielsen - Queen Hippolyta
J.K. Simmons - Commissioner Gordon
Ciarán Hinds - Steppenwolf (voice)
Amber Heard - Mera
Joe Morton - Silas Stone
Joe Manganiello - Mr. Wilson
Jesse Eisenberg - Lex Luthor
DISCUSSION NOTES
- What was the overall theme?
- Getting the band together
- (Unlike Marvel, they don't call themselves the Justice League)
- Basic plot
- Steppenwolf has been able to come back to Earth and wants to find the three mother boxes; once the boxes are united, the world can be conquered and
- The past
- Steppenwolf tried to conquer Earth before, but the united armies of Amazons (with help from the Gods), Atlanteans, humans, and Green Lanterns beat him (LotRstyle). They spilt the Mother Boxes, hiding and protecting them. One is in Atlantis, one is on Themyscira, and the humans buried the third.
- Bruce Wayne / Batman
- Been Batman for 20 years – getting tired
- Feels guilty about Superman's death
- Uses guy's fear to lure a creature (find out later it's a Parademon)
- Need to recruitothers to fight invasion
- Comes up with plan to resurrect Superman; the world needs hope and the team needs more firepower
- What's his super power? Being rich; him being the only regular human is brought up throughout the film
- Gives Flash confidence to be a hero
- Relies heavily on Alfred
- Buys bank that took the Kent's farm
- Diana Prince / Wonder Woman
- Works in a museum; does the Wonder Woman thing when needed, but is not public about it
- Paris: Uses lasso to learn plan, stops bullets, tosses bomb in air, comes back, stops more bullets, saves day
- Themyscira: Steppenwolf invades, Hippolytagets Mother Box out, locks warriors in room, more fighting, but Steppenwolf gets box. Hippolyta lights the beacon, knowing Diana will realize what's going on. (The beacons are lit, Gondor calls for aid!)
- Still hurt by losing Steve Trevor
- Reluctant team leader
- Still a badass fighter; Steppenwolf notices she has the blood of the Old Gods in her
- Aquaman/ Arthur Curry
- Sexy, sexy, sexy! - This is not how Aquamanis traditionally seen
- Helps village
- Turns down Bruce
- Senses something is wrong, goes to where Mother Box is kept
- Atlantis: Steppenwolf invades; Merafights him – water witch! Steppenwolf gets Mother Box. Mera tells Arthur that it's his job to get the box back since his mother is gone.
- Sense of humor; drinks; fights – has quadrant
- Scene on plane to final fight – accidentally sits on lasso, tells deep truths
- Cyborg/ Victor Stone
- Didn't ask to be saved
- Doesn't have full control of abilities; continuouslychanging
- Dad works at Star Labs; used the third Mother Boxto make him Cyborg
- Learns who Diana and Bruce are
- Able to "hack" into Bat vehicles and the Kryptoniandevice to resurrect Superman
- Vital to plot – he finds third Mother Box; he is able to split Mother Boxes apart
- The Flash/ Barry Allen
- Father in prison; lost; doesn't work in crime lab (not until "a friend" gets him an entry level position)
- Built his suit
- Thinks it's cool that The Batman wants him to join a team
- Decides to join because he needs friends; he doesn't "get" people
- Doubts he can be a hero - (Batman: just save one, Barry)
- Stumbles over his feet
- Funny and quippy (resurrect Superman: hope this isn't a Pet Cemetery situation)
- Scene in cemeterywith Cyborg: he was hit by lightning; says they are the "accidents"
- Superman/ Clark Kent
- Missed by world
- Mom loses farm; Lois lost
- Resurrection: Body dug up, body put in amnioticfluid in Kryptonian ship, Barry has to jump start the cube right as it hits the fluid
- Not happy about being brought back to life
- Fight: Team tries to talk him back, but Cyborg's system overreacts and attacks Superman. Big fight. Sees Flash come for him; able to fight Flash. Chokes Batman, ready to kill him; Batman calls for the "big gun," which is Lois. Flies away with Lois to farm.
- Joins fight in a big way
- Saves an entire building – Barry saves one family in the truck
- RESURRECTED SUPERMAN IS THE SUPERMAN WE SHOULD HAVE HAD SINCE THE BEGINNING!
- Laughs, jokes, smiles. Is hope.
- Steppenwolf
- Stop the alien invader story
- Good villain to bring team together?
- His fear makes his Parademonsattack him and he leaves
- Rate him as a threat -
- Imagine A Green Lantern or a Supergirlin this fight too
- Post credit scene 1
- Flash and Superman race – straight from the comics!
- Post credit scene 2
- Lex is out of prison, chilling on a yacht in Europe.
- Lex is smooth and smart; he's not the wacky boy from before
- Someone arrives by boat – it's Mr. Wilson!
- Lex - Maybe we should have our own league
- Favorite moment(s)
- SP -
- Chris -Flash and Supes race or headbutt fight
- Michelle – Wonder Woman saving people in Paris, Wonder Woman being vital to the fights – using lasso, sword, and gauntlets
- What didn't you like?
- SP -
- Chris -Outing the secret ID of Supes and Batman and runtime
- Michelle – Butt shots (but I think it could've been worse), bikini armor on some of the Amazons, Henry Cavill's weird CGI face
- What did you like about the film?
- SP -
- Chris –THEY FIXED SUPERMAN!
- Michelle – the humor and that all of the team was needed; it wasn't the Batman and Superman show with some other people
- Lingering questions:
- SP -
- Chris -Where do we go with batman now?
- Michelle – WHERE ARE THE GREEN LANTERNS???????????
- Rate the movie
- SP -
- Chris -
- Michelle – Not better than Wonder Woman, but better than the Academy Award Winning Suicide Squad
- Would you like a sequel?
- SP -
- Chris -
- Michelle – Yes, but with Batman and Alfred as Watchtower
- Are you excited about other DC films?
- SP -
- Chris -
- Michelle – Aquamanbecause Momoa is wonderful and it seems as though Mera will have magic and be from Xebel. And Wonder Woman, duh
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Director: Gordon Verheul
Writers: Wendy Mericle and Speed Weed
IMDB link: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt6493666/?ref_=tt_eps_cu_n
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