Wes ranches in the Chihuahua Desert of Southeast New Mexico. Of all the people I have talked to, his environment might be the toughest to run cattle in. It's dry on an average year, and he's currently in the 3rd year of a drought. Grass is in short supply and his cattle have to travel several miles to water when they aren't out eating brush and cactus to survive. We discuss how he got into ranching, the challenges of his environment, and how PCC bulls are working in it. Despite the many challenges, Wes recognizes that his ranch also offers some unfair advantages, such as cheap lease rates and easy winters. Listen in to hear how he is building a ranching business in some of the toughest country in the United States. Resources Mentioned: Stockman Grass Farmer Holistic Management Working Cows Podcast As always, check out the Herd Quitter Podcast on Facebook and Instagram as well as at Herdquitterpodcast.com. You can also check out Pharocattle.com for more information on how to put more fun and profit back into your ranching business!