Christof Koch is a German-American neurophysiologist and computational neuroscientist best known for his work on the neural basis of consciousness. He is the president of the Allen Institute for Brain Science in Seattle and he is the chief scientist at the Tiny Blue Dot Foundation. Bernardo Kastrup is an idealist philosopher and the executive director of Essentia Foundation. His work has been leading the modern renaissance of metaphysical idealism, the notion that reality is essentially mental. In this episode, they debate about Analytic Idealism, the Integrated Information Theory, psychedelic trips and death.