Today we’re talking about bird flu, but in a pretty Decoder way. Science journalist Lauren Leffer, who recently wrote a piece for The Verge about bird flu and how it’s becoming a forever war, is joining me on the show. We’re going to talk about the systems, structure, and culture that might control bird flu — and those that might make it worse.

Links: 

• We’ve entered a forever war with bird flu | Verge
• Kennedy’s alarming prescription for bird flu on poultry farms | NYT
• First bird flu death in US reported in Louisiana | NYT
• Bird flu found in sheep in UK, a world first | NYT
• Shell shocked: how small eateries are dealing with record egg prices | NYT
• Animal Farm: eggflation’s monopoly problem | The Lever
• At the ‘Wall Street of Eggs,’ Demand Is Surging | WSJ
• How to protect your pets from bird flu | Popular Science
• What to know about the bird flu outbreak in wild birds | AP
• Bird flu continues to spread as Trump experts are MIA | Ars Technica

Credits:

Decoder is a production of The Verge and part of the Vox Media Podcast Network.

Our producers are Kate Cox and Nick Statt. Our editor is Ursa Wright. 

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