On episode 239 of You, Me, Empathy, Hannah and Kelty (founders of Upbringing.co) and I explore their codependence as twins growing up, how parenting is like improv, shifting our focus from how children are behaving to how they are feeling, and why kids are the original feely humans.

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Content warning: A brief mention of animal abuse mentioned.

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