In this episode, hosts Cheryl Russell and Tiffany Dahlman dive into a critical and timely topic as they interview Collin Packer to explore a challenging topic that is on many of our minds in this season: Christian nationalism. We are just scratching the surface in this conversation as we discuss how Christian nationalism distorts the gospel, damages the church's witness, and poses significant challenges for pastors today. We also explore practical steps for navigating these difficult waters in the hopes of a communal remembering of the plot of our story, a story which centers on a crucified Lord. We are glad you are here to consider this with us. Collin Packer is the Scholar-in-Residence for the Siburt Institute for Church Ministry at Abilene Christian University. Following 13 years as a Lead Minister for congregations in Colorado and Texas, Collin served as the Director of Faith-Based Partnerships for CitySquare, the most comprehensive and effective poverty-fighting organization in Dallas, and the Communications Director for Texas State Representative Carl Sherman Sr. during Texas’s 88th Legislative Session. His work in congregational life and in the public square has given him a unique perspective on how the Christian faith can make a difference in public life.

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