Joe Phelps is a retired Baptist pastor with a long history of making good trouble in regard to hunger, poverty, race, and other social justice and equity challenges. As part of the Earth & Spirit Center’s Community Conversations series, Joe joined host Kyle Kramer along with a live Zoom audience to talk about the intense racial tensions in Louisville, KY, his many friendships and collaborations across color lines, and how he has sustained his engagement and advocacy over time.  This extended version includes the Q&A segment from the Zoom audience, which comes after the formal close of the podcast. Links and Resources: Earth & Spirit Center Community Conversations: https://www.earthandspiritcenter.org/class/community-conversations/ Empower West: https://empowerwest.com/ Facebook group: White Women Demand Justice For Breonna Black Power by Stokely Carmichael White Too Long: The Legacy of White Supremacy in American Christianity by Robert P. Jones The Beatitudes: From Slavery to Civil Rights by Carole Boston Weatherford