In San Francisco for the APEC conference, President Biden is going on the offensive against former President Trump, lashing out at him over immigration. Meanwhile, things have gotten ugly in Congress, where former Speaker Kevin McCarthy stands accused of assaulting one of the men who helped take away his gavel.

And that’s just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to a deteriorating sense of civility in American life right now, with a Senate hearing almost turning into a brawling fistfight yesterday, a second congressional hearing turning nasty, and anger and confrontation on college campuses over the war between Israel and Hamas. Tensions are running high in a society that seems more polarized than ever. For more, KCBS Radio news anchors Bret Burkhart and Patti Reising and KCBS political reporter Doug Sovern spoke with political sociologist Mindy Romero, founder and director of the Center for Inclusive Democracy at USC’s Price School of Public Policy. She’s also the president of the board of California Common Cause.