We're starting this episode with a controversial but important question--do you consider yourself a cruise person? you either love to hate them or hate to love them and that's just #facts. Join Heather and her dear friend Gary Janetti as they discuss life in the before times when tanning was basically an olympic sport. Spoiler alert, it's safe to say Gary definitely took home the bronze. And while this episode is definitely all fun and games it's also full of very real moments--from discussing Gary's new book of essays "Start Without Me", putting yourself first, to the importance of representation (especially in television). Plus, have you ever heard the concept of energy dollars? we hadn't either but trust us when we say that you'll want to start budgeting for this.