Listener, do you know what a doyen is? We don't, but if there's an international doyen of science communication, then that doyen would probably be Professor Alan Irwin of the Copenhagen Business School - Department of Organisation!We had a great chat with doyen Alan at the Public Communication of Science and Technology (Network) Conference in Dunedin New Zealand, talking the invention of citizen science, Danish Consensus Conferences and book covers!The Wholesome Show is @rodl and @willozap, proudly supported by @ANU_CPASSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.